INTERVIEW WITH SHEILA PENROSE / Chairman, Jones Lang LaSalle
From our 2006 Census
Jones Lang LaSalle is the world's leading real estate
services and money management firm, providing
fully-integrated services for property owners, investors and
occupiers.
What do you see as the biggest challenge to increasing the
number of women on boards and in senior management? What
additional barriers exist for women of color?
I think people do understand the importance, but many are
frustrated by what they can do about it, how to bring more
women into senior executive positions and onto the board.
It's still true that women advance more readily in support
functions, rather than P&L. There is the perception that
men take charge and make tough decisions. There is a
pervasive stereotype that women are good at taking care.
After Sarbanes Oxley, every potential director is facing
greater scrutiny. This has made the search for board
members even more stringent and made it harder for women to
get on their first board than five years ago.
Both women of color and women generally face a number of
challenges as executives and as members of corporate boards.
But, women of color specifically may face stereotypes and
their access to networks and their ability to find mentors
may be more limited. Successful women in business also are
expected to wear a lot of hats, especially women of color.
They are expected to carry out their executive or board
role, represent their community of color and participate in
diversity initiatives. That can diffuse their focus and
efforts compared to someone who can be totally single minded
about pursuing narrow career objectives.
What single strategy have you found to be most successful in
advancing women to senior roles and tapping their
contribution?
It involves a thousand small things. When you're looking at
senior promotions, there should always be women on the list.
If they don't get the promotion, assess why not. What did
she lack and what are we, as a company, going to do to fill
the gap in her experience? Is there external training she
needs? What about a foreign assignment? You must insist
upon creating the right cultural environment that values
different viewpoints and where people feel they can speak
up. Senior management must be consistent and relentless. I
am concerned that the demands on top executives are so
extensive that this risks getting squeezed from the agenda.
You must make sure everyone in the organization understands
you can't relax.
What advice do you have for women who are trying to advance?
What advice do you have for men who make these
decisions?
The key issue is networking. Women must make sure they are
building relationships where they can make a contribution.
You should be visible: lead a project, be a spokesperson for
a team, be seen to be taking a risk. You should figure out
how to align your personal career objectives with those of
the organization - and share it with the boss. Men do these
things instinctively.
Men should challenge their assumptions, and put in place a
fact-based way of measuring accomplishments and potential.
They should understand that women are risk takers, they will
take foreign assignments and they know how to balance work
and family.
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